Curse

Boris_714 · May 29, 2005, 11:23 PM // 23:23

I had several laffs today goin into the arena at old ascalon as a level 9 warrior and watching my team be killed in seconds flat by players using lvl 20 weapons over and over.
Its sad that kiddies haffta run off the new players just to rack their points up and worse is that they belong to guilds that either promote it or allow childish behavior.

BTW Please dont tell me how good they are and I'm not I've been playing RPG's longer than most in here have been alive.

Phantom Force · May 29, 2005, 11:59 PM // 23:59

I have yet to really participate in PvP, but to me it sounds like this games type of ganking or naked killing. Yes you may want to be careful and take caution before entering but you'll always have immature losers like that in games that have and promote PvP. Usually these people think they are Gods because they owned people who have nothing when they are stacked out. Example D2 players that used hacked items such as occy rings, etc. I would use a legit sorc and own them after they insulted everyone in the room that they were better than everyone. Then when they get owned they get mad because you found a way to be their hacked/duped out A$$. Nice laugh for everyone but the moron who resorts to cheap PvP. My only suggestion is to be careful and cautious. It may be a problem for PvP in arenas and eventually some resolution may happen. Til then be careful and those who think they are big and bad will end up losing in the long run. When they get to real areas and face people with real skill.

Perishiko ReLLiK · May 30, 2005, 12:11 AM // 00:11

Well, the lvl 10 arena really serves no purpose other then a place to pvp before the "Big boys" area... And lvl "20" items, i assume you mean the armor? really it doesnt matter that much, since the chances of him being placed with more good team members arent that good, and besides... there will more then likely be another good team that will kill them... They dont gain anything out of it, besides **Thinking** that they're good... but then we think about this... **why are they so scared to go to the big boys area?**...

DarrenJasper · May 30, 2005, 12:11 AM // 00:11

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Originally Posted by Boris_714

I had several laffs today goin into the arena at old ascalon as a level 9 warrior and watching my team be killed in seconds flat by players using lvl 20 weapons over and over.

They had a strategy. You didn't. No one was using level 20 weapons.

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Originally Posted by boris_714

Its sad that kiddies haffta run off the new players just to rack their points up and worse is that they belong to guilds that either promote it or allow childish behavior.

You don't get any points from the arena, the itty bits of experience you get is negligible compared to normal levelling. If you make a guild, you can do what you like with it, and I hardly see how winning in the arena is childish.

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Originally Posted by boris_714

BTW Please dont tell me how good they are and I'm not I've been playing RPG's longer than most in here have been alive.

haha

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Originally Posted by dirt merchent

One hit he was killing people i left cause it just wasnt fair.

No he wasn't.

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Originally Posted by dirt merchent

Yes you can get the armor from draknars forge and be able to use it with a new character you create of the same class.

No you can't.

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Originally Posted by phantom force

I have yet to really participate in PvP, but to me it sounds like this games type of ganking or naked killing.

Well if you actually did participate you'd notice it's the most balanced, level-playing field you will find in any MMO. There is no ganking. There is no "naked killing", which is laughable since you can't loot corpses in this game.

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Originally Posted by phantom force

Yes you may want to be careful and take caution before entering but you'll always have immature losers like that in games that have and promote PvP.

Uh, yeah... I guess people go into the arena to run around and pick daisies and we're all griefers for killing them.

Caco-Cola · May 30, 2005, 12:31 AM // 00:31

Yah I dunno where you got that you can get the armor from Draknar's Forge.

I mean the armor is customized, you can't transfer it from one character to another.

Learn game mechanics before you make a fool of yourself.

Zeru · May 30, 2005, 12:50 AM // 00:50

You can effectively reach Draknors at lvl 1 fyi :-/

Here's my solution: Don't bother with arenas till you're ascended. The skill selection early on is just terrible it doesn't give you a real experience anyway.

Boris_714 · May 30, 2005, 12:50 AM // 00:50

I said weapons and yes ya can pass them to your new player but still if it makes ya feel big go for it I am just warning the new players to stay, enjoy the game and not be dissapointed because of lil kiddies that haffta act like they know how to play but instead use exploits to look good

And jasper ya weren't there so dont run ya face we were

Lazarus · May 30, 2005, 12:51 AM // 00:51

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Originally Posted by Caco-Cola

Yah I dunno where you got that you can get the armor from Draknar's Forge.

I mean the armor is customized, you can't transfer it from one character to another.

Learn game mechanics before you make a fool of yourself.

Learn to be helpful and give out information in a polite manner before making an ass of yourself. This has got to be one of the most condescending replies you could have made. Please, give the guy a break.

This kind of thing is the reason why there are so many threads in several forums talking about how much the GW community sucks. In the long run it will be very damaging to the game.

Flame me if you want to. It'll just be a waste of your energy.

Lazarus

Burgio · May 30, 2005, 01:15 AM // 01:15

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Originally Posted by Boris_714

I said weapons and yes ya can pass them to your new player but still if it makes ya feel big go for it I am just warning the new players to stay, enjoy the game and not be dissapointed because of lil kiddies that haffta act like they know how to play but instead use exploits to look good
And jasper ya weren't there so dont run ya face we were

most "lvl20 weapons" have a higher requirement so even if they r usin the most lvl 1-10 wont be dealing that much damage (warriors at least)

Aiwahead · May 30, 2005, 01:59 AM // 01:59

A: You CAN get to droknar's forge at very low level, even level one.

B: You CAN get ahold of weapons that have absolutely no requirements with max damage.

So yes, it is exploitable. Yes, you can be effectively raped and theres nothing you can do about it. These arenas are pathetic, small time fests of morons that think they're 1337. You get no rank from them, just so called bragging rights. Ignore it and go to the HoH and GvG. No one cares about the brighteyes that do this.

gwden · May 30, 2005, 03:00 AM // 03:00

how do you get to droknar's forge at lvl 1 without any help from lvl 20?

Rey Lentless · May 30, 2005, 03:08 AM // 03:08

Even in the level 15 arena, with really crappy items compared to what I could have transferred from another character.. there was very little 'suped' up people from what I notice.

It's not overly noob friendly because you'll have people bitch at you, but it's not like you go in there knowing everyone else is stacked and you're just fodder. I didn't notice that at all.

You equip different skills, you move around some ability points, and you'll do just fine in the 10 or 15. Unless it's changed in.. days.. I can't agree with this at all.

It's a good way to learn a little better communication and coordination that can be used even if you're just a pve'er taking a break.

Khrysyl · May 30, 2005, 03:11 AM // 03:11

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Originally Posted by Boris_714

I had several laffs today goin into the arena at old ascalon as a level 9 warrior and watching my team be killed in seconds flat by players using lvl 20 weapons over and over.
Its sad that kiddies haffta run off the new players just to rack their points up and worse is that they belong to guilds that either promote it or allow childish behavior.

BTW Please dont tell me how good they are and I'm not I've been playing RPG's longer than most in here have been alive.

Hey, if the 4 teams we played against and won (4 consecutive wins is the best I did on an arena team last night) then I guess my team and I must have been some HOT STUFF, eh?

Sure, on various teams we suffered some blistering defeats, but winning 4 in a row is a rush in itself!

Jana · May 30, 2005, 03:16 AM // 03:16

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Originally Posted by Dirt Merchent

I was with a guy inthere that had the best armor you can get and nothing but superior runes it was rediculous. One hit he was killing people i left cause it just wasnt fair. Yes you can get the armor from draknars forge and be able to use it with a new character you create of the same class.

How?

Armor is SPECIFICALLY tailored for a PERSON, not a profession. Notice on your armor it actually says...

"Customized for <insert name here>"

Heh. Looks like someone got owned in the arena

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Keep at it, you will win eventually. Good team >>> Uber items

Jana

Caco-Cola · May 30, 2005, 03:58 AM // 03:58

And yet that's an extreme minority of the players.

You act as if it's every single one.

Look at the map. Look at where Droknar's forge is located. You'd have to walk through an incredible amount of areas to even get there. And as a level 1 that wouldn't be easy, even if you had a lvl 20 group backing you up. For one, at the beginning you'd only have 3 of them.

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Learn to be helpful and give out information in a polite manner before making an ass of yourself. This has got to be one of the most condescending replies you could have made. Please, give the guy a break.

This kind of thing is the reason why there are so many threads in several forums talking about how much the GW community sucks. In the long run it will be very damaging to the game.

Flame me if you want to. It'll just be a waste of your energy.

I did help him. I told him about customized armor didn't I?

Also I suggested he learn game mechanics before he makes out rageous claims.

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his has got to be one of the most condescending replies you could have made.

Not really.

Beqxter · May 30, 2005, 04:25 AM // 04:25

The sad truth is there are a**holes on the forum just as there are a**holes in the game. I do believe that there are also a**holes in real life. In all three, there are also plenty of kind, generous people who are willing to lend a hand to those in need. In every case, I ignore the one, and try to be kind and thankful in return to the other.

Regarding exploitation in the arena, it's unfortunate but inevitable. It's also pretty difficult to accomplish and not, in my own experience, all that common. If you're in the ascalon arena and find yourself up against someone with a flaming dragon sword, etc., just switch to a different district and jump on again. I DO think it's valuable to play in the arena at early levels, as it taught me a lot about playing my character with a real team, as opposed to henchies. And while winning is fun, I've learned a lot more from losing. The arena, particularly at the lower levels, is for practice and honing skills, not an end unto itself. At least, I think so.

DrSLUGFly · May 30, 2005, 04:45 AM // 04:45

Why is it that every time somebody has a complaint people have to flame? It is surely possible to get high level weaponry at low level. On another thread a person spoke of getting to Yak's Bend at level 9, levelling as little as possible so they could continue to go to the arena. Surely some people could have guildmates or even friends who would escort them over the mountains to get them some good armor, and weapons don't have to be customized...

What this guy is talking about isn't farfetched, why tear at him? And even if he is wrong, even if he just got owned by people who knew what they were doing, why not just let him vent?

Japanese Peso · May 30, 2005, 05:10 AM // 05:10

As someone who just used whatever they found around for equipment and weaponry, I found the Ascalon arena to be really easy. I stayed there for about an entire levels worth of experience too. I probably had a 5:1 win:loss ratio. if you are having problems with others using big weapons and armor, move to a different district, I never ran into the problem myself at all, so I have to assume it's not incredibly common.

Caco-Cola · May 30, 2005, 05:16 AM // 05:16

If ya'll think I"m flaming ya'll are WAY too sensitive.

There's worst people out there. I merely told why he's wrong.

Also yes it is possible BUT you'd have to have willing guild mates and these are the MINORITY. an EXTREME MINORITY of hte people in the game.

It does NOT happen every time. If it does, oh well. Some people have no lives and go to those extremes just to give them an extra edge.

Big deal! You lost once, oh well. Get on with the game, it won't affect anything.

DrSLUGFly · May 30, 2005, 05:19 AM // 05:19

I can't really empathize myself... I haven't played Arena. On the subject of sensitivity though, I notice a lot of people here and in most online games are really harsh. People readily insult, threaten, tell them to quit in mid-game, etc... I think we're made to expect it because 90% of the time that's what comes. If I interpreted a constructive post as destructive flamage then my bad. Apologies. Otherwise, I can't really make a sensible comment since I don't have arena experience. :/